From: Chris Nandor Date: 17:13 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Smileys Programs that automatically convert your text into smiley graphics are pretty silly, I think we can all agree. But if you can turn them off, then at least they are not especially hate-worthy. But in iChat, you CANNOT TURN THEM OFF. Now, there's a hack that supposedly removes them, but that's not the point. Smileys not only look stupid to many people, they actually get in the way when I am typing normal text, like: It has three colors (RGB) That becomes: It has three colors (RG<smiley face with glasses> And there is no way to turn it off. I can think of only one reason to not turn it off: because the person you're communicating with might have them on, so you should see what they see. But if that's the case, then I should see a smiley BEFORE I hit return. And anyway, couldn't it send some magic over the AIM link saying "Don't use smileys here"?
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 17:24 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys > It has three colors (RGB) > It has three colors (RG<smiley face with glasses> Think of what it does to Perl code on Web boards.
From: Chris Nandor Date: 17:32 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys At 11:24 -0500 2003.09.08, Peter da Silva wrote: >> It has three colors (RGB) > >> It has three colors (RG<smiley face with glasses> > >Think of what it does to Perl code on Web boards. Yes, I often put Perl code in iChat. It often fills me with hate.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 19:18 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys > >Think of what it does to Perl code on Web boards. > Yes, I often put Perl code in iChat. It often fills me with hate. Damn, you've REALLY paid your dues.
From: Mark Fowler Date: 23:31 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Chris Nandor wrote: > Programs that automatically convert your text into smiley graphics are > pretty silly, I think we can all agree. But if you can turn them off, then > at least they are not especially hate-worthy. To have smileys on is the default behaviour on ymessenger, or at least it was a couple of months ago when I was using it on linux. Now the annoying thing is that this software used to corrupt itself so often (it would get it into it's head that you wanted a font so small it was only two pixels high) that the only way to cope is to delete the ~/.ymessenger directory almost every time you used it. Yep, you've guessed it. That turned the automatically insert smiley code back to the default setting of ON. Gah! HATE HATE HATE
From: Chris Nandor Date: 23:35 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys At 23:31 +0100 2003.09.08, Mark Fowler wrote: >Yep, you've guessed it. That turned the automatically insert smiley code >back to the default setting of ON. > >Gah! HATE HATE HATE That's what backups are for!
From: Gavin Estey Date: 23:56 on 08 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 06:35 PM, Chris Nandor wrote: > > That's what backups are for! > I hate that you have to do backups. The OS knows what files I use and what I do with them, can't it do some clever versioning and backup behind my back? Gavin.
From: peter (Peter da Silva) Date: 00:24 on 09 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys > I hate that you have to do backups. The OS knows what files I use and > what I do with them, can't it do some clever versioning and backup > behind my back? There are good ways and bad ways to do that. /vol/.snapshot/weekly.1/Network Appliance does it the good way. VMS:[DOES.IT.THE]BAD.WAY;35 $ @LOGOUT $ PURGE *.* $ LOGOUT POPPINS logged out at 08-SEP-2003 18:23:04.66 Username:
From: Piers Cawley Date: 08:07 on 09 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys peter@xxxxxxx.xxx (Peter da Silva) writes: >> I hate that you have to do backups. The OS knows what files I use and >> what I do with them, can't it do some clever versioning and backup >> behind my back? > > There are good ways and bad ways to do that. > > /vol/.snapshot/weekly.1/Network Appliance does it the good way. I sometimes get the feeling that Network Appliances may almost have software that attains the Holy Grail of Not Sucking. But that's obviously impossible, so forget I said anything.
From: Simon Cozens Date: 07:58 on 09 Sep 2003 Subject: Re: Smileys Gavin Estey: > I hate that you have to do backups. The OS knows what files I use and > what I do with them, can't it do some clever versioning and backup > behind my back? It's people like you that got us Plan 9.
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